Talk:Victoria, Princess Royal/Archive 1
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Heir Presumptive
yet the link here to
heir presumptive
does not go to it.
However, should Heir Presumptive be capitalized? I have not capitalized it here pending resolution of this point.
Songwriter 17:43 4 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- As it is a formal title, it is capitalised when used as a formal title, in lower case when written generically. As this article is talking about the Heir Presumptive, not about a heir presumptive, it is capitalised here. (Just as one talks about presidents but President of the United States, a queen but Queen of the United Kingdom.) FearÉIREANN
Aren't there several Princesses named Victoria? RickK 19:27 4 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Shouldn't this page be at Victoria, Princess Royal? --Jiang 22:00 4 Jul 2003 (UTC)
I have moved it to Princess Victoria of the United Kingdom to follow royal naming conventiions. I would love to use the PR title but as there are a number of PRs with the same name and they lack ordinals to distinguish between them, using [[name, Princess Royal]] is too problematic and so should be reserved for the current Princess Royal. It is a problem that was discussed at length. Using the basic royal title also matches general naming conventions in terms of reverting dead royal brides to their maiden title (Catherine of Aragon, etc). The convention agreed was that unless a royal had a peerage, they would be entered as Princess of whatever state they came from (or linked to title if relevant, in this case the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. (Hence Princess Margaret of the United Kingdom, Prince William of Wales, Princess Beatrice of York, etc.) BTW I have also set up a redirect from her marital title which also existed. FearÉIREANN 22:43 4 Jul 2003 (UTC)
There were two princess of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (excluding Queen Victoria before her ascension) who were officially known as "Victoria": (1) Victoria, Princess Royal and later Empress Friedrich (1842-1901), the eldest daughter of Victoria of the United Kingdom; and (2) Princess Victoria (1868-1935), the unmarried second daugther of Edward VII of the United Kingdom. I am considering contributing an article on the second Princess Victoria (nicknamed "Toria"). However, if I used the naming convention Princess Victoria of the United Kingdom it would create a conflict with the existing article dealing with Victoria, Princess Royal. Do you have any suggestions? Also, since 4 Jul 2003, I have added the article Louise, Princess Royal and Duchess of Fife and expanded the existing article Mary, Princess Royal.
Jeff 2:05 28 Sept 2003 (UTC)