Some very odd stuff seems to have crept in to this page
- nomenclature: the entire equivalent terms sentence is unnecessary, except to perhaps mention that "curtal" is an equivalent English word, and that confusingly, Italian printed music of the period just calls it a "fagotto"
- the "douçaine" is a different instrument altogether
- "superseded by the baroque bassoon" - "baroque" is unnecessary
- could do with mentioning the connection with the German organ stop "dulzian"
- there is a paper - I think on the IDRS archive - that argues about the co-existence of the bass shawm and the dulcian - by Bob Cronin from memory
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91.84.104.229 (talk) 16:57, 29 July 2011 (UTC)