Talk:Collectivism (disambiguation)/Archive 1
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How much is "collectivism vs. individualism" discussed outside of Ayn Rand circles? I don't know, which is why I am asking.
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I don't like this article -- it seems to be some libertarian argument that communism and fascism and racism are all of the one cloth... I definitely don't think its NPOV. "Collectivism" is a propaganda term used by certain groups -- I don't think it has any NPOV definition at all. And yet this article treats it like its just some matter of fact... -- SJK
I agree that it is non-NPOV libertarian propaganda ... and worse, it is bad non-NPOV libertarian propaganda. I'm a gun-carrying libertarian, and I think it should be vigorously neutered. However, I think there might be a use for it: many philosophical systems do value the group over the individual; e.g. Confucianism. Something good could go here, but what's here now isn't it.
I came to this page via a link from "sexist." I too do not like this article, and although I agree with SJK and Epopt, my take is slightly different: I think this article confuses and conflates "collectivism" with "essentialism." I have rewritten the intro to make it more NPOV and have removed stuff that really is about essentialism; I will either move that stuff to an existing article on essentialism or I will create a new one. In the meantime, perhaps others can help make this more NPOV and thorough/useful
This page does not describe Bakuninist collectivism, which is related to libertarian socialism. (I came here from Anarchism, where the term was used to describe libertarian socialism; I'll improve the description of libertarian socialism, but this page also ought to include a summary of Bakuninist collectivism.)